Hi mikroElektronika Team
Begin of Summer has been.
Middle of Summer has gone.
Ending of Summer is approaching.
Any indication of when the new updated "mikroPascal for AVR" is being release?
I am sure other members are waiting.
Regards
Ken
Any News On Latest Updated Version
Of course I am on your side, but - sorry - you need to "fight" alone with mE! I don't like to beg for support over and over again to mE... Hearing for months the same promises without any results... See that questions are consequently ignored... So, we get just an empty promise more on your question if its get answered...Are you on my side or not ?
Sascha
Hi,
OK i can understand your frustration with AVR compiler.
However, like said before, we are working on VERY big revision of our compilers for AVR.
I hope you understand how big of a project this is:
- we are introducing entirely new compiler mikroC for AVR (currently underway)
- command line for the new compilers built from ground-up (done)
- the whole new IDE for AVR compilers (similar to IDE for 8051 family of MCUs) (done)
- rewriting of libraries and examples, and the inevitable test phase
We are confident that this time around we will release a compiler that you will be satisfied.
The beta testing phase will also apply on the compilers for AVR MCUs.
Kind Regards
OK i can understand your frustration with AVR compiler.
However, like said before, we are working on VERY big revision of our compilers for AVR.
I hope you understand how big of a project this is:
- we are introducing entirely new compiler mikroC for AVR (currently underway)
- command line for the new compilers built from ground-up (done)
- the whole new IDE for AVR compilers (similar to IDE for 8051 family of MCUs) (done)
- rewriting of libraries and examples, and the inevitable test phase
We are confident that this time around we will release a compiler that you will be satisfied.
The beta testing phase will also apply on the compilers for AVR MCUs.
Kind Regards
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Hi Marko,
It is IMHO simply unproffessional the way you supporting your customers. I don't talk about the qualitiy of your software or hardware. I speak from ignoring most of their questions in the forum. You leave your customers alone with their problems.
You can answer and give a hint how to solve the problem, can answer and tell that this is a known problem and will be fixed with the next release which come in x days. There are dozends of other ways to support the cust. But ignoring him is the bad one of all solutions.
Not only a better compiler must be developed, a change of thought how handling your customers, too!
Sascha
Maybe I understand, maybe I don't... This is not the question. mE didn't understand that the world don't stand still while mE builds a new compiler.marko.ziv wrote: I hope you understand how big of a project this is:
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It is IMHO simply unproffessional the way you supporting your customers. I don't talk about the qualitiy of your software or hardware. I speak from ignoring most of their questions in the forum. You leave your customers alone with their problems.
You can answer and give a hint how to solve the problem, can answer and tell that this is a known problem and will be fixed with the next release which come in x days. There are dozends of other ways to support the cust. But ignoring him is the bad one of all solutions.
Not only a better compiler must be developed, a change of thought how handling your customers, too!
Sascha
Hi Marko & mikroElektronika Team
informed on some sort of daily basis on the progress that team is coming
along while waiting for many months in the redevelopment or any
patches that need to be done. I do not mean everyday, just say like a
notice every two or three week would be ample. At least we can feel rest
assure something is in the progress which is better than saying nothing
indicating nothing is being done.
The main point of this is when announcement was made back when
(which I cannot remember) that there will be a completely new revise or
revamp compiler will be release in summer.
If extra time is needed due to some glitch in the process then give us
some sort of feedback to indicate a little extra time is needed & don’t
leave us in the dark again.
Customers or members of this forum prefer to read something
progressing & rather not see anything (which means we are nothing if
you get what I mean).
No doubt, I am sure your team will do a marvellous & fantastic job on the
new AVR Pascal Compiler & hope this will pay of to gain more
customers. Sure let see this package will blow our mind away.
Like in any area, respect & look after the customers first & the rest will follow.
Ken
This is the part that customers or members would like to be kepta change of thought how handling your customers, too!
informed on some sort of daily basis on the progress that team is coming
along while waiting for many months in the redevelopment or any
patches that need to be done. I do not mean everyday, just say like a
notice every two or three week would be ample. At least we can feel rest
assure something is in the progress which is better than saying nothing
indicating nothing is being done.
The main point of this is when announcement was made back when
(which I cannot remember) that there will be a completely new revise or
revamp compiler will be release in summer.
If extra time is needed due to some glitch in the process then give us
some sort of feedback to indicate a little extra time is needed & don’t
leave us in the dark again.
Customers or members of this forum prefer to read something
progressing & rather not see anything (which means we are nothing if
you get what I mean).
No doubt, I am sure your team will do a marvellous & fantastic job on the
new AVR Pascal Compiler & hope this will pay of to gain more
customers. Sure let see this package will blow our mind away.
Couldn’t this wait till the new revise or revamp Pascal version finish first?we are introducing entirely new compiler mikroC for AVR (currently underway)
For which compiler is this for ?command line for the new compilers built from ground-up (done)
Couldn’t this wait till the new revise or revamp Pascal version finish first ?the whole new IDE for AVR compilers (similar to IDE for 8051 family of MCUs) (done)
Is this needed for the new updated Pascal or just the other that was mentioned in the quotes.rewriting of libraries and examples, and the inevitable test phase
Like in any area, respect & look after the customers first & the rest will follow.
Ken
Hi,
put them together in compiler and all of them to work perfectly from the get go.
And don't worry we will inform you on the progress.
Hope this helps.
Best Regards
Almost every time there is some "glitch", it is almost impossible to create such a vast number of components,pykedgew wrote: If extra time is needed due to some glitch in the process then give us
some sort of feedback to indicate a little extra time is needed & don’t
leave us in the dark again.
put them together in compiler and all of them to work perfectly from the get go.
And don't worry we will inform you on the progress.
No, because we wanted to cover everything together, to make a compiler for Basic, Pascal and C (exactly like PIC and dsPIC)pykedgew wrote:Couldn’t this wait till the new revise or revamp Pascal version finish first?we are introducing entirely new compiler mikroC for AVR (currently underway)
This stands for all three versions of compiler for AVR.pykedgew wrote:For which compiler is this for ?command line for the new compilers built from ground-up (done)
Again, no because we are transferring all of our compilers to a new IDE.pykedgew wrote:Couldn’t this wait till the new revise or revamp Pascal version finish first ?the whole new IDE for AVR compilers (similar to IDE for 8051 family of MCUs) (done)
Not sure if I understood you correctly but this is needed (and especially important) for every major release of a compiler.pykedgew wrote:Is this needed for the new updated Pascal or just the other that was mentioned in the quotes.rewriting of libraries and examples, and the inevitable test phase
Hope this helps.
Best Regards
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Hi Marko
Then we can understand why the extra activity is going on in the background.
I had no idea about the different compiler platforms your team was working on.
Hence the reason of what is causing the delay of the release.
Ken
Now, that is the sort of responses we like to see or read.Hope this helps.
Then we can understand why the extra activity is going on in the background.
I had no idea about the different compiler platforms your team was working on.
Hence the reason of what is causing the delay of the release.
pykedgew wrote:
rewriting of libraries and examples, and the inevitable test phase
Is this needed for the new updated Pascal or just the other that was mentioned in the quotes.
Now, that you have clarified in your above quote, that the library & test codes need to be change for the updated compilers.Marko wrote :Not sure if I understood you correctly but this is needed (and especially important) for every major release of a compiler.
Ken
Did you realized that probably most of us are software developers too and not some stupid idiots?marko.ziv wrote:Hi,
Almost every time there is some "glitch", it is almost impossible to create such a vast number of components, put them together in compiler and all of them to work perfectly from the get go.
You didin't understood anything... But, it doesn't matter anymore...Hope this helps.
Goodbye
Hi,
The explanation I gave is intentionally written in this manner so that it is
clear to every one reading this forum, both beginners and experienced users.
Only thing that I can add (that i have not already written here) is that at the
moment AVR compilers are Software Departments top priority.
Best Regards
The explanation I gave is intentionally written in this manner so that it is
clear to every one reading this forum, both beginners and experienced users.
Only thing that I can add (that i have not already written here) is that at the
moment AVR compilers are Software Departments top priority.
Best Regards
LibStock
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mikroSDK
https://www.mikroe.com/mikrosdk
mikroBUS
https://www.mikroe.com/mikrobus
http://www.libstock.com/
mikroSDK
https://www.mikroe.com/mikrosdk
mikroBUS
https://www.mikroe.com/mikrobus
Note on web page...
Since you are developing complete new compilers for AVR, it will be honest to notify that on AVR compilers pages , not to taking money for bad product and get more angry customers.....
I support your progress. I can wait more if I know you will release god products for AVR. But, don't break promises any more. Be honest what is going on.
Mladen Bruck
Mostar
I support your progress. I can wait more if I know you will release god products for AVR. But, don't break promises any more. Be honest what is going on.
Mladen Bruck
Mostar
Marko,
I have not looked at or posted on this forum for one year. I can see that nothing has changed. No support and no interest in fixing the problems with the software/compiler.
To say that the update for the Pascal AVR compiler is been held up because of all the compilers are getting an update is rubbish. You have had plenty of time to fix it, you just have no interest in doing this, and will not admit it.
I will keep using Bascom until you have a 100% change in attitude, which at this rate will be many many years away. Maybe when I am eighty years old I can use the MikroElektronika product I bought from you.
I will have another look in twelve months, but I am sure nothing will have changed.
I have not looked at or posted on this forum for one year. I can see that nothing has changed. No support and no interest in fixing the problems with the software/compiler.
To say that the update for the Pascal AVR compiler is been held up because of all the compilers are getting an update is rubbish. You have had plenty of time to fix it, you just have no interest in doing this, and will not admit it.
I will keep using Bascom until you have a 100% change in attitude, which at this rate will be many many years away. Maybe when I am eighty years old I can use the MikroElektronika product I bought from you.
I will have another look in twelve months, but I am sure nothing will have changed.
To Development Team
"mikroPascal for AVR" should have been given TOP PRIORITY back at least 6 months ago.
Seem the more members in certain area get the focus than the minority who loose out.
Logically, if you keeping abreast with many updates, patches and revised compiler then you would be able to gain more customers in using your product.
But your inconsiderate attitude is not doing the company any favors & is doing more damage to the image of your company.
I just recently read that Elector did review on "MikroElektronika EasyPIC5 Development System".
Think, the editor would like to hear about the poor support we receive for "mikroPascal for AVR" in the past & let the public knows.
Well, end of SUMMER is approaching & still no hint of when it going to materialise.
Down where I am we are going into Spring then Summer which is the invert of yours.
Ken
Since when this became top priority when other sections receive their updates at the beginning of the summer & had many update prior as compared to ours.Only thing that I can add (that i have not already written here) is that at the moment AVR compilers are Software Departments
top priority.
"mikroPascal for AVR" should have been given TOP PRIORITY back at least 6 months ago.
Seem the more members in certain area get the focus than the minority who loose out.
Logically, if you keeping abreast with many updates, patches and revised compiler then you would be able to gain more customers in using your product.
But your inconsiderate attitude is not doing the company any favors & is doing more damage to the image of your company.
I just recently read that Elector did review on "MikroElektronika EasyPIC5 Development System".
Think, the editor would like to hear about the poor support we receive for "mikroPascal for AVR" in the past & let the public knows.
Well, end of SUMMER is approaching & still no hint of when it going to materialise.
Down where I am we are going into Spring then Summer which is the invert of yours.
I might have to drive for 4 days to let Ray out of his closet & give the good news then. Even so for him, he is not impress at all.I will have another look in twelve months, but I am sure nothing will have changed.
Ken
