janni wrote:josef2600 wrote:but that one harts! basic compilers are 50$ cheaper. NOT equal .
That's in the past - there's no price difference now and current explanation is that all compilers require the same amount of effort.
sorry, yes, i was shortened!
i really respect to other languages, specially basic. after all i work with it for 17 years. from qbasic and GWBASIC (good old times!) to picbasic then mikrobasic. it was DOS on the PC's back then.
this is cruel when mikroe doesn't follow on their compilers. well C for pic32 is very bad! i can say i have worked with at lest 14 different compilers. from 8051 to AVR & PIC & ARM - and one for 8086 ! 6 years working with c language.
I can say mikroc pic32 is the worst and for mikroc pic is the best. i have not worked mikroc for arm and have no idea. but i say it with all respect for mikroe co.
i am going simple on what is why !
Mplab X for pic32 with harmony, is the most powerful compiler in the world ( wait for it !) if and only if you only use the microchip embedded boards! for me it was completely useless ! i needed a net and some i/o futures and SD card and only one LCD ( 2 line ). it is a joke with mikroc pic32, but ... i worked on it for 3 month on that mo... fu...er ! for me that was impossible. as far as i know it is the most expensive piss of shet ! there are some other compilers for pic32 , but they are extremely useless. sure , there are lots of problems with mikroe , but , and it is a very big but , they are full free. you only pay 300$ for it and you are don. it is extremely important for me because i producing products and sell them. all library's are free but in microchip for everything must be payed. for example, remember i needed a library for LCD 2 line ? well you are not going to believe wat happened to me in microchip forum to me !
usually no one , and i mean no one is going to help you ! the answers are vary from bull of shet to you being stupid and get the hell out of here. some say they have what you need, but they are never going to give it to you! in short even the support of microchip is going to insult you for existing! sharing codes ? it is a dream over there.
there is another very good reason for using mikroe compilers. if i am using pic32 in c, i can use c for all microcontrollers , pic 8051 avr arm. the compiler and most libs are exactly the same.
sometimes when see some post i get angry, people insult mikroe for some reasons, that is bad. mikroe has the best tools for micros. i am not saying they are doing a very good job, but instead of that, we can work together to make them work better. you may say how ? we say every problem 50 times to them and they don't do sh..t. well it has a good way to do it. when you fined a real problem or a bug , first be sure you are correct, search the forum, when you are sure and fined some others that have the same problem, contact each others and destroy the support of mikroe. with calls, emails, online help, .... . they can ignore forums or one person , but they cant fight a crowd. and always make sure to write your progress on the forums so others know that and know how to get answers from mikroe.
at last special hello and regards to filip, my man !
best regards, Josef.